The Guardian September 19, 2001

Sceptical? Read this!

Emperor's Clothes journalist Jared Israel interviewed the Huffman 
Aviation company which it is alleged trained some of the hijackers who 
undertook the attack on the World Trade Centre and the Pentagon. The 
interview took place around noon on September 13. Here is the 

Israel:: Hi, is this Huffman Aviation? 

Dekkers: Sorry. I was taking an outside line. Yes this is Huffman Aviation.

Israel: You're probably getting three million calls, right?

Dekkers: No, five million.

Israel: Ok, I'm going to keep you on for ten seconds. I just have a very 
quick question to ask you. Emperor's Clothes, we're a news Website. Do you 
train people on the actual planes that were used in that horrible thing in 

Dekkers: No sir. We train small single engine, small multi-engine 
airplanes. And they are good for four people; that's it. That's not 
turbine. Total different systems. Not capable to fly anything like that.

Israel: Could you spell your name? 

Dekkers: R-u-d-i D-e-k-k-e-r-s. 

Israel: And you're talking to Jared Israel at Emperor's Clothes which is at and is very skeptical about the story because it didn't make 

Dekkers: No, what happened was after the training they had here they went 
to another flight school in Popana Beach and they had jet training there, 
simulator or big planes, but there is where they conducted the training to 
do what they had to do.

Israel: Are you sure of that? 

Dekkers: Yeah we have heard that from several directions.

Israel: But even so, with the training you would get would you trust 
somebody to get in a plane and fly? 

Dekkers: No, I fly 20 years in these kind of small planes and I would not 
do for a million dollars to take over that cockpit. 

Israel: So it's still questionable, isn't it? 

Dekkers: Oh, you bet....

Israel: Yes. You're very helpful. Your point is the more sophisticated 
training with the other place but that might give you a certificate but 
would you trust somebody to do the kind of sophisticated thing they did?

Dekkers: No they didn't have the certificate to do that. They only had only 
a multi-commercial licence but not for commercial airlines. That is a 
different licence. But these people didn't need a licence, so that's 
another question.

Israel: But wouldn't what they did require sophistication?

Dekkers: Yeah, they went to that school, I have heard the name, they call 
it a jet centre for simulator training, there is no way  this is not my 

My opinion is I don't think it is possible. I have spoken to many captains 
from the airlines and they say there is no way what the planes did, they 
could have done that.

They changed altitude. They changed speed. They changed direction. They had 
to know about the equipment to do what they had to do and there is no way 
that could have been done.

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